[notinfuriated]

Unsure why you had to turn this into a dig at Michael Jordan.

And before you say it's not a dig at him, what could possibly be the implication of calling Kareem a true "winner" in comparison to the previous statement about a competitor like Jordan who always wants to win?

Did I miss something where Michael Jordan said he doesn't want to spend time with his kids or grandkids if he has them? Is that what the "fuck them kids" meme is actually about?

[relaxing]

I think the point is Kareem seems genuinely happy in life, and Mike still carries animosity towards people he worked/played with decades ago.

I know which way I’d rather be.

[racl101]

It was kind of a weird comment.

Seems to imply that in the world of professional basketball there's something wrong with the being ultra competitive and desiring to win and defeat one's enemies and winning a championship and that, instead, being a family man is more the real measure of success. Which, if true, I think both sports fans and sports organizations have all missed the memo.

My buddy Chuck is a great family man. Not a great ball player. Should he join the NBA?

> Is that what the "fuck them kids" meme is actually about?

I think this meme is about MJ's general disdain for signing autographs or taking pics with people even famous people like rappers. He is the classic example of "never meet your heroes". Which, again, even if he is the biggest prick off court, it hardly detracts from his reputation as being one of the greatest NBA players, and arguably, thee most famous athlete across all sports, of all time.

In other words, even though Gretzky, for example, is greater than MJ in terms of stats, no one had a bigger presence in the '80s and '90s than MJ around the world across all sports fandoms.