[strawpeople]

> you are pushing something that nobody sane would believe: major owners of a company would have no say in the company steering and management??

No. I’m saying you’re just wrong about them being major owners. If it was true, you’d be able to easily show us some evidence.

Blackrock and Vanguard are minority shareholders in the companies you list and don’t have enough votes to control the boards or fire executives.

You are simply making false claims about who owns these companies. That’s all that’s happening.

[sylware]

And again and again and again (and it is over), you are the one who is not in the believable zone , _YOU_ are to prove _YOUR_ claim that the major owners (which takes 5 minutes of googling to check on several different sites, and which is public info, even the debts as it is significant info for "investors") do NOT have any say in the companies they own.