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by throwayyy479087 1219 days ago
I think it’s the Polish. Apparently their relationship with Russia is similar to a very angry pitbull has with steak. They were mass rapes by the Soviets at the end of World War II and horrible conditions for the Polish during the Soviet empire.

Polish friends say there’s no shortage of young men who want the glory of blowing up something owned by the people who gang raped Grandma.
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colonCapitalDee 1219 days ago
Yeah, Poles hate Russians, and the polling numbers back it up. Pew found 94% of Poles think Russia is a "major threat", and 91% have "very unfavorable views of Russia".

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/spotlight-on-p...

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partiallypro 1219 days ago
I can totally see it being the Polish, but I don't think there is a clear finger that points to anyone (including the US and Russia.) This does sound more plausible than the US. If the US did it, it would literally be done with support of other NATO allies (including Germany itself, and in secret.) It's simply too risky for them to end up destroying the entire NATO relationship, which they would not risk at this juncture...so it doesn't really make sense. Poland on the other hand, would still be a buffer between the rest of Europe and Russia even if Ukraine falls...so they have a lot less to lose, because no one is going to really punish them. I still feel it as -probably- Russia, but I don't think there is enough evidence, and it's very likely we'll just never know. The US theory to me is just logically bunk.
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chii 1219 days ago
> It's simply too risky for them to end up destroying the entire NATO relationship

and also the pipelines area already denied being approved by germany at the time.

The risk of blowing it up to make it irreversible seems to lack any real gains vs the risk it entails.

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gregw2 1219 days ago
Is there any plausible scenario where Ukraine did it, with or without help?
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impossiblefork 1219 days ago
I said this in another comment, but the Polish would be very stupid to do something like that, which jeopardises the German economy.

I think it's moderately unlikely. This is obviously something that many Polish people would cheer for, but would their actual government really be that stupid?

I find it hard to imagine.

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