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by jurmous 1225 days ago
Google their presentation felt lacking. Mostly repeating AI features they already announced with some small features or expanded locations/languages to distract that their Bard is totally underwhelming.

It did not show any source links below the generated text. They did not show off any queries with super recent information.

It feels Microsoft is at least one year ahead with this Prometheus model and product work with integrations into Bing and Edge. In an interview with the Verge Microsoft CEO mentioned they already had the raw search optimised Prometheus model in mid 2022. So for Google to train a similar model optimised for search including sources will take quite a while.

It will be interesting to see if Bing market share will grow. I will certainly try it out when it is my turn on the waitlist. Google on the other hand said nothing on availability.. Showing really they were caught unprepared and that this presentation was an act of desperation.

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I've gotten cynical about these AI features. I've seen that they try to outsmart me by changing my query which 95% of the time just leads to worse results. Bing is even worse than Google in this regard where I quote every word in my query and they still ignore my terms. It drives me nuts. If they want to use AI for ranking great, if the page doesn't contain my quoted terms stop including it!
It seems that it's all a result of optimizing search for the average user. For him it might be better, and leaving the power users aside.

I wonder whether this is an inherent conflict in search and information systems , and so we'll see the same results with the newer LLM based tools ?

I would agree if we were talking about unquoted terms. I’d like a checkbox in my account settings that make my terms act as quoted by default and I add a flag to make the search fuzzy, but at least respect the quotes, you know? Assume quotes are being used by power users and make everything else fuzzy.