[wrldos]

I can't honestly even consider reading this from the vendor in question. I appreciate Firefox and use it on a regular basis but no browser, OS vendor or standard agency out there has an ounce of respect left from me.

Nothing any OS vendor or browser vendor has done in the last decade has been a user-focused positive experience. They have become delivery tools for revenue only rather than information access. Even Firefox which is turning up now with crapware splash screens turned on by default.

Until that changes, I'm deaf to any position.

[HeckFeck]

> Nothing any OS vendor or browser vendor has done in the last decade has been a user-focused positive experience. They have become delivery tools for revenue only rather than information access.

Succinctly put. I've felt this shift everywhere; it killed the fun and curiosity I felt when I first encountered computers and the web. I can't recommend anything in good faith. When I open a new website or program I dread to think what it is collecting from me... who is looking at it, where it is stored... forever.

It just seems so powerless to resist, especially when so much of wider society expects you to use $CHATAPP or even $DATING_APP. I can't imagine a first date where I scold the lady on her use of proprietary software: "Please install this XAMPP-Mastodon-Matrix chat app from the F-Droid store or I won't speak to you again"

[mtrower]

> a first date where I scold the lady on her use of proprietary software: "Please install this XAMPP-Mastodon-Matrix chat app from the F-Droid store or I won't speak to you again"

The hero we needed, unsung and forgotten.

[pyaamb]

I'd like to see more money that Mozilla receives go into browser development. I was excited about the Servo project but feel like maybe they aren't serious about doing a fresh rust implementation

[wrldos]

Yes I agree there. They seem to be a PR and marketing company these days with the odd reskin here and there.

[pyaamb]

that being said, i think FirefoxOS was a good idea. I just wish they would commit fully and follow through.

[albrewer]

> Nothing any OS vendor or browser vendor has done in the last decade has been a user-focused positive experience.

I mean, we got Rust out of the deal.

[wrldos]

Ah Rust. I've written a few thousand lines. Nothing major. It feels like it's got the same personality as C++. You know a shit hot weapon that fires the world's most powerful missiles but at the same time makes embarrassing fart noises. I mean it's really good but I spend a lot of time defending the fart noises rather than firing the missiles.

[albrewer]

> I spend a lot of time defending the fart noises rather than firing the missiles

My experience with it is that there is learning cliff to scale, rather than a gradual on-ramp like Python. The people complaining about the fart noises are complaining the cliff is too hard.

From my perspective near the bottom of the cliff, the people that grok the language tend to churn out things with a speed and quality I don't see elsewhere.