[PaulDavisThe1st]

From my reading, that's not where "modern living" comes from at all. For that, we should look to middle class folk living in the Netherlands, in roughly the late 1700s. They were (so I have read) the first to develop the modern concept of "home" with distinct rooms for different purposes, at least on a scale that be attained/reasonable aspired to by regular people. The account I read of this strongly suggested that this shift was not a copy of aristocracy/royalty, but rather a new conception rooted in the life and experience of a new mercantilist class.

[calsy]

And I'm sure the kids still remained with their parents at night. Through all of our known history across all cultures families have slept together. It is only in the past few centuries that European wealth and individualism changed that.

So why is this the 'better' option? What is the benefit from separating a child from their parents at night? More likely it just how our parents did it and everyone else does it so we inherently think its the best way.

What we think to be normal or right is in fact the complete opposite that based on our known history.

[recuter]

> And I'm sure the kids still remained with their parents at night. Through all of our known history across all cultures families have slept together. It is only in the past few centuries that European wealth and individualism changed that.

I am sure you are so sure because you are attempting to shoehorn reality into some vague political philosophy.

> So why is this the 'better' option? What is the benefit from separating a child from their parents at night?

Privacy for one. Some people claim letting your baby cry in the other room is healthier for their development, 'etc. If you insist on being post-modern about everything lets take it all the way, what even is 'better'? Why is 'better' even 'better'?

I'll keep my individualism thank you. You do your better and I'll do mine.

[calsy]

Political philosophy? Different cultures approach life in different ways. Where’s the politics in that?

Families sleeping together is the the absolute opposite of post modern.

Letting a baby cry out for its parents while it’s alone is a ‘good thing’ makes no intuitive sense. Feeding babies with bottles became normal for some reason until we understood that it was more for the benefit of the companies selling formula and decided ‘gasp’ breastfeeding might be preferred.

You keep your individualism? It’s the only thing you know, you have no idea what life is like otherwise. You just assume the culture you live in is the best version of how to do things.