[NHQ]

This was never the open internet. You can't send a direct packet to another person without intermediaries and cloud systems. You can barely host a website from your personal computer, most cannot. This internet is as they say sold out.

[Incipient]

I mean the internet decided to scale out. I don't think relying on intermediaries counts as "selling out".

[NHQ]

We are the ones that are sold out, by regulatory capture, monopolies, wireless spectra, etc. Section 230 does nothing for people, it created the platforms that censor, and gave the government a hook into the industry.

Look, even EFF supports section 230 [0]; btw, EFF is a total sell out operating as a feel good, ideological protector. All they do is swindle the "engineering culture" into pushing these things onto the world.

0. https://www.eff.org/issues/cda230