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by FoxBJK 1223 days ago
Wonder how long it'll take for Blink to overtake WebKit on iOS in terms of usage.
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A few weeks, at least. By that point, nearly every user should have gotten a notification that YouTube, GMail or Google Search is 100000% better with Chrome.
On iOS I doubt people use the browser for YouTube, GMail. Those have dedicated apps.
Why do people install those apps? Because the first time they visit that site on a new phone it tells them that everything will be better in the app, without mentioning that this is mostly true only for advertisers.
Ehh...I do think the native app often gives a better experience than mWeb.

Don't get me wrong, a really well-written PWA with fully cached assets is often almost at a native app experience level, but that's not usually the case with most mWeb implementations.

For Gmail, perhaps — I think that’s one of the best cases for push notifications on the web — but YouTube basically comes down to whether you need large offline storage and search is a non-issue.

One thing I noticed about both Google and Facebook’s apps before deleting them was that in addition to using more battery, both were slower in their apps than using the web site. That was surprising but consistent & a large part of why I ditched them.

For me, YouTube comes down to the fact that if I use YouTube through Firefox for Android, and install the "Video Background Play Fix" addon, then I can go for a walk with my phone in my pocket and listen to things through YouTube without having it pause as soon as the screen turns off.

Well, I believe you can do that if you pay for YouTube Extortion Edition or whatever it's called. Which I used to do, until too many ads still came through and I got pissed off.

(Though note: if I got to a YouTube link through anything other than going directly to the site and searching, then it would open in the app. Which would then pause when I turned off the screen. Which was irritating. Fixed by disabling the YouTube app entirely. Life is much better now.)

> Don't get me wrong, a really well-written PWA with fully cached assets is often almost at a native app experience level

And what would those be? When this question is asked, people inevitably bring up Twitter as the shining example. And it's just horrendously bad.

I've never seen a good major one TBH. The best PWA I've ever used, however, is this Palm OS emulator:

https://cloudpilot-emu.github.io/

Does Wordle count? It’s simple but it had a ton of users so it might be the most popular.
And essentially every time you click a link in one of those apps.
So you're saying that opening the browser market will improve data collection and reduce the need to install apps, thus strenghtening the web?

Sounds amazing.

I’m saying that it doesn’t do the web a service to break one monopoly while doing nothing about the more successful second monopoly. I want an open App Store but I also want fair competition in the browser market.
On iOS you can block YouTube ads if you watch through the browser. That alone makes plenty of people not bother with the app.
but imagine if they didn't need the app
I don't think it ever would. I think the majority of users would stay with the default browser.

I think that within a more tech-aware demographic, they'll see more people use Chrome.