[joyfylbanana]

It is always the employees telling these stories, but how managers are supposed to know if they are really working? When they are at the office the see it with their own eyes.

Common counter argument to this is that the manager sucks because he/she can't measure the work otherwise. But from managers perspective it is much easier to force people to be on-site than fix his/her own problems.

[harvey9]

Person you replied to said they spent hours in the company gym during office hours. Either they are delivering what's expected of them anyway, or the manager has no idea what to expect regardless of in-office or remote working.

They also mentioned avoiding other distractions: That's the main feature of remote for me, after many years of wearing headphones all day in various offices.

[irrational]

1. My manager lives and works in an entirely different state. 2. We do not have assigned seating on campus. We are just required to be on campus, but can find a place to work in any building. So, even if my manager was in the same state as me, I certainly would not be anywhere he could see me.

[devoutsalsa]

Managers know who is and isn’t getting work done.

[JohnFen]

> how managers are supposed to know if they are really working?

Because if they're not, they miss deadlines.