[joyfylbanana]

I'm not a direct employer, mostly an investor and solo entrepreneur who has low likelihood of ever employing people again. Used to be a big employer until sold my company.

Personally I have seen lots of different work in my previous work, and I just don't believe that remote work provides as much value for the shareholders. Productivity is likely better as remote, but the communication and trust issues cause problems. People often end up working on wrong things.

Personally I won't be investing in remote-only companies, unless it is somehow extremely stellar project.

[kwhitefoot]

> People often end up working on wrong things.

The must have pretty bad managers then. Why should there be a trust issue? My manager assigns me a task, I do it on time and they are happy or I fail to do it on time and they are unhappy. How does where I do that task make a difference?

I think the return to office thing is just a cover for incompetent management.

[joyfylbanana]

Yeah, let's say that it is incompetent management. As an business owner, you can fix the situation either by forcing people into offices, or firing the bad managers and recruiting a competent management instead. To me the latter solution sounds crazy expensive and difficult compared to the first.

[kwhitefoot]

> you can fix the situation either by forcing people into offices

That probably doesn't really fix the problem, the incompetent manager is probably still incompetent just in a smaller sphere of operations.