[srackey]

Further out than we imagined? There are several cities with operating robotaxies right now. You can buy a Tesla that can drive itself (with supervision) right now.

We’re certainly behind where we expected to be, but the future is indeed here!

[lolinder]

Those robotaxi services are severely limited in scope, unprofitable, and still manage to screw things up so badly that even SF is getting sick of them:

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/29/23576422/san-francisco-cr...

[flangola7]

Do they screw up per-mile worse than a human driver?

[lolinder]

From the article:

> Months later, a Cruise AV “ran over a fire hose that was in use at an active fire scene,” and another Cruise vehicle almost did the same at an active firefighting scene earlier this month. Firefighters say they could only stop the vehicle from running over the hose after “they shattered a front window” of the car.

I don't know about per-mile, but that's worse than a human for sure.

[flangola7]

That's not worse than humans have done. Especially an elderly or drunk human.