[synergy20]

Just got into IOT devices and I am using RP2040 boards(with wifi and without wifi, bluetooth is enabled now I think), what's the advantage of ESP32 to RP2040 these days? It's $4 ~ $6 a piece and also is solder-able to your base-board if you need make your own, it of course runs on its own without any base-board perfectly fine.

[Saris]

Compared to the ESP32-S3, the RP2040 doesn't have Wifi/BT, doesn't have an RGB display controller, has slower clocks, and has less RAM and Flash.

For most IoT devices the ESP32-S3 is overkill unless running a large display, and you could use the cheaper ESP32-C3, which has 1 core instead of 2, no RGB interface, and less GPIO. These run about $2 each for a solder-able module with built in antenna: https://www.digikey.com/short/cttthh0h

Or $6 for a dev board with USB built in: https://www.digikey.com/short/9rp1zbb3

I'd compare the RP2040 more to your classic STM32 arduino dev board, with the ESP series in another class above those.

[skybrian]

The RP2040 chip doesn't have WiFi but the Pico-W board certainly does and we've used it:

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5526

Bluetooth support is supposed to be added in the next version of the SDK.

[Saris]

Interesting, to me that seems like a downside having external Wifi/BT over SPI

[mmoskal]

It could be an advantage if the rp2040 had a decent low power mode - then you could only turn on the wifi when you need it (eg data upload every few hours) and run for a year on battery. Alas it doesn't...

I think the main advantage (to some, in the current geopolitical climate) is that it's not Chinese.

[Saris]

Not being based out of China is good yeah.

The ESP series can disable wifi/bt entirely if needed, their low power sleep is pretty good. IIRC someone got a year or more out of a single 18650 cell doing very slow updates.

[vardump]

I use both. They're cheap as chips, so why not?

ESP32 doesn't have RP2040's PIO. It's just amazing, and can easily emulate RGB display controller or whatever you want it to. Even software HDMI with most CPU power still available. Thus bitbanging possibilities are endless, and this chip can sometimes replace an FPGA.

Pi Pico W boards also indeed have Wifi and recently bluetooth was enabled.

RP2040 also overclocks pretty easily, and people have pushed it even past 400 MHz. Wouldn't overclock in anything important, but for hobby projects — why not! It's about as fast per clock as dual core ESP32 (except for DIV & FPU math).

Both chips have their uses. For example ESP32 got HW FPU and integer division division, those can really help in some cases.

[1023bytes]

RP2040 itself definitely doesn't have WiFi or Bluetooth

[tony-allan]

Many of the boards you can buy have an ESP32 for wifi.

I quite like the separation between the two functions.