[varnaud]

By understanding that a fetus isn't a grown children and that the woman bodily autonomy and medical care are no one else business except hers.

Also abortions aren't performed in primary schools 7 years after birth using an AR-15.

[tekknik]

They still result in the same. A child is still dead. So yes, to me they are the same.

[varnaud]

Let's assume the thing growing inside the womb is a child.

Imagine a person you've never met. They will die if not for a miraculous treatment that requires some of your blood everyday for 9 months. But for the treatment to work, it also requires that everyday the person blood is mixed in your body. There is a small chance you'll die because of this treatment.

Should we force you to accept the treatment or should you have the option to not do it?

If you refuse the treatment and the person dies, would it be fair to equate you to a murderer?

[tekknik]

You’re creating a twisted, unrealistic example. A pregnancy is not out of the norm and can be stopped prior to impregnating. There is no force, the person made a decision and changed their mind. Murdering a child in the process.

[varnaud]

>You’re creating a twisted, unrealistic example.

Imagine here is a terrible earthquake and many people need blood transfusion to survive. You happen to have the blood type O negative and know it can be used to save lives. You go to the donation center and right before the needle goes in, you panic and change your mind.

The same day a woman has a miscarriage because of trauma from the earthquake and a lack of emergency blood transfusion. Did you murder that child?

It was later revealed that this woman was 12 years old and raped by her father, but the miscarriage was judged suspicious by the authorities and are charging her with murder.

After all people who get pregnant made that decision. Pregnancy can be stopped prior to impregnation. She probably changed her mind and faked getting hurt in the earthquake. Also if she's a murderer, it's not a stretch to assume she's also a liar. She lied about her father and probably got pregnant by seducing one of her male friend.

Remember people, a child is dead! We have to investigate.