[gisely]

What makes it an opinion? If I were to say that the Nazi party in Germany peddled in hatred and demonization of already-marginalized groups would you say that is an opinion? Just because a statement pertains to political groups doesn't make it a mere opinion.

[s0sa]

Nazi Germany, really? Equating AI bias against the groups pointed out in the article to theoretical AI bias against Nazi Germany is a political opinion, yes.

[gisely]

Hmm? No equating happening in my comment. The point was that just because statement is about a political group doesn't mean it's a only an opinion. Mentioning Nazi Germany is just using an extreme example to make clear that statements about political groups aren't inherently mere opinions.

[throwway120385]

Yeah, insofar as there are distinct political philosophies with defining features like fascism, democracy, nationalism, oligarchy, et. al., then it is entirely possible to accurately call manifestations of those philosophies by their names and have it be an expression of fact. This is basic ontology.

We have opinions about these philosophies but the philosophies exist independently of our opinions. And to have a rational conversation we sometimes have to use terms that may provoke strong reactions. If we can't look past our strong reaction and explain why the category doesn't apply then there's no way to make sense of each other's worldview.

If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it must be a duck or we cannot have a rational conversation about the duck. We can dispute whether it quacks or walks but disputing whether it's a duck in light of evidence of its duckness is irrational.

[PathOfEclipse]

It's probably an opinion because it's not provably true. There is no mainstream Nazi party today so I don't understand how your example is meaningful or relevant.

Anyways, if you're in the U.S., I assume you're referring to the Democrat party as the party of demonization? They are the party whose members are most likely to be involved in demonization of other groups. Here's some examples:

Christian hate: https://www.dailywire.com/news/our-messaging-does-not-align-...

Hate for Jews: https://www.dailywire.com/news/ilhan-omar-on-her-history-of-...

Conservative hate: https://www.dailywire.com/news/miami-based-restaurant-asks-f...

Hate for blacks with unapproved opinions: https://www.dailywire.com/news/sincerely-sorry-texas-democra...

Hate for white men: https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-top-health-insurance-p...

Hate for anyone who believes in objective biological reality: https://www.dailywire.com/news/j-k-rowling-on-why-she-chose-...

The democrat party, including the sitting president of the U.S., loves calling their opponents fascists, : https://www.dailywire.com/news/cnn-anchor-blasts-biden-over-...

They also love calling people bigots: https://www.dailywire.com/news/they-call-their-fellow-employ...