[creshal]

Not entirely sure what's "revolutionary" about the ORM, although the lack of joins, M2M relationships, migrations, and other basic features certainly is revolting.

The entire API/serialization/… part also seems extremely primitive, what with it being only capable of either exposing data or not, with no easy way to filter or transform data.

Let's hope it survives long enough to be competitive with mature frameworks.

[vlidholt]

It's revolutionary to Dart in the sense that you can use strict typing when communicating with the database. This is very helpful as you get much more help with autocomplete and other language tooling.

Granted there are still lots of gaps to fill, but we are surely getting there. The biggest new feature we are working on is database migrations.

[creshal]

I don't really get the whole "if I have to learn more than one programming language my head will explode" thing that junior frontend devs seem to be insisting on for the past few years, why use an immature framework in Dart when I can use a mature framework in an easily learned language and be much more productive after a few weeks?

[vlidholt]

Learning a new language takes time, which translates to money for companies hiring developers. Also, even many more senior developers prefer working in a single language due to the context switch otherwise involved.

Mature is a matter of definition. There are several apps in production already that are using Serverpod and are very happy with it. But, of course, it is a new framework and there are many improvements to come. It's always important to do your research before choosing any type of framework so you know it will support the features that you will need.

[mixmastamyk]

Could you be more condescending?

[timetraveller26]

yeah, you should use javascript /s