[YurgenJurgensen]

If your culture is well-known enough and seen as desirable enough that you start having to no-true-scotsman to differentiate between the corporate poseurs and the true believers, it's a pretty strong sign that you're not a counterculture anymore. People don't try to fake having low cultural status.

[yadoomerta]

imo that's the problem - everything gets corporate poseurs so quickly now could just be i'm out of touch and the countercultures have successfully hidden from me tho

[goodpoint]

> it's a pretty strong sign that you're not a counterculture anymore

The very opposite.

[thebooktocome]

> People don’t try to fake having low cultural status.

They do. One of the most successful directors of all time built his career telling stories about faking low cultural status.

Perhaps that’s too abstract. But if people don’t fake low culture, then what is Hillbilly Elegy?

[YurgenJurgensen]

That's faking low financial or political status in order to obtain cultural status. If the rich and powerful are generally hated, you don't become popular by flaunting your wealth but by distancing yourself from it.

[harimau777]

I don't think it's a "no-true-scotsman" to say that they would need to support the core goals of the movement in a meaningful way.