[ickoonite]

読み込む is probably more common for “import” (and 書き出す for “export”). But differences abound. Windows uses 印刷 for print (or did last time I checked); the Mac has long used プリント。And for connoisseurs of truly subtle differences, ウィンドウ on Windows contrasts with ウインドウ on the Mac.

[justusw]

Yeah, 読込 is a common way of saying importing too. The particular offender I am using here is called 会計王22 ;)

Although using an app released in 2022 in Windows Shift_JIS compatibility mode is giving me less than regal feelings. /s

Accounting Japanese is another whole weird world of unusual Japanese, such as 支払手数料 (payment fees) suddenly applying to all kinds of non-fee things as well such as professional services.

One should keep in mind here that IT Japanese uses Japanese in places you won’t expect, and when you expect it even less, it will switch back to English.

[ickoonite]

支払手数料 a fine example of how messy the language can become. What looks like a run of 漢語 actually contains a mix of on-yomi and kun-yomi and “you just have to know”.

That there would be Japanese software houses still using Shift JIS in 2022 does not surprise me in the slightest. Presumably they still deliver you software updates by floppy disk, notification of which comes by fax…?

[justusw]

When you consider that alternatives like freee are still quite clunky in the browser, you don't have a lot of choice. I haven't tried Yayoi yet, but I don't expect much.

Kaikeio doesn't support HiDPI / 150 % fractional scaling either, so it looks really weird on my machine.

Recently the maker (Sorimachi) has announced that you can download their newest edition. Too late! They have already sent me the CD.

Anyway, you know it's completely wild when their official help site points you to switch to Shift-JIS compatiblity mode on a fresh install of Windows 11 :) (https://qa.sorimachi.co.jp/hc/ja/articles/360054408631-%EF%B...)

I just resort to editing everything in GnuCash and then importing into Kaikeio using a custom sql -> csv script. I hate the idea of my accounting journal being trapped in proprietary software.

Too bad that Japanese lawmakers have further decided to decrease software freedom by prescribing the use of digital time stamping by next year.

[ickoonite]

> Anyway, you know it's completely wild when their official help site points you to switch to Shift-JIS compatiblity mode on a fresh install of Windows 11 :)

Oh dear. I just skimmed that. The bit where it tells you to turn off the beta UTF-8 support made me particularly sad.

(A good part of the blame lies with Microsoft of course - why are these legacy locale and encoding settings still system-wide?)

[getoj]

支払手数料 is “fees paid” rather than “payment fees” - compare 支払利息 and 支払報酬. I’ve never noticed the ambiguity but your confusion is natural.

I agree that it’s very strange that professional services fall under 手数料 instead of 報酬, but taxes are weird in every language.

[justusw]

Hey! A fellow accountant :)