[GaryNumanVevo]

I'm a bit disappointing I didn't read this reply before replying to your other reply in earnest. Honestly, this comment reads as more as a personal projection about the kinds of people who want to have more transportation options, than anything actually constructive.

It's hilarious to actually _blame_ the anti-car stance as the thing that got us in to this situation in the first place. Like it wasn't a fight won in heartfelt debates, rather a systemic lobbying by the auto industry to fundamentally rebuild the post war US into one where automobiles are absolutely necessary for most people.

I've left a bunch of actionable advice in the other thread hopefully you'll read up on it, overall this kind of intellectual dead-ending is dreadfully sad to see on HN

[notacoward]

Nowhere did I blame anti-car people for the current situation. That's a total strawman, and - as you say - sad to see on HN. But not surprising. I'm also well aware of strongtowns and missingmiddle and so on, and often draw my arguments from them. If you look back in my history, as you already seem to have done but only to cherry-pick and escalate, you should be able to see that.

I do want more transportation options. I grew up in a city where there were more (overseas) and have traveled to many more. But I also see a continuing role for cars, and better for them to be EV than ICE. And I'm sick to death of people who sit around and kibitz, as if we can quantum-leap from one state to another - whether it exists elsewhere or not - instead of doing the work to get there through the incremental paths still available to us. That's the real intellectual dead end. Intellect should be employed for understanding and planning and problem solving, not merely wishing problems away and throwing fallacies at anyone who disagrees with that approach.

[GaryNumanVevo]

This is a deeply strange way to complain about a group of people you don't like.