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by jmpman 1239 days ago
How is this a half truth? Soviet Union was allied with the Nazis, until the Nazis turned on them.

Or is something else taught in Russia?

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It is a felony in Russia to mention that WWII started in 1939. Only allowed narrative is The Great Patriotic War started in June 1941.
It's also a felony to mention Stalin's purges, the Bolshevik Pogroms in Poland, the Holodomyr where Stalin murdered 5 million Ukrainians,

Read up on Nazinsky Island where Stalin sent 5,000 "Kulaks" (subsistence farmers) who resisted forced collectivism. Over 3,000 died in 6 weeks from disease, starvation, bullets and cannibalism.

Stalin made my people eat each other, and it is illegal to mention this in the free, glorious russian empire.

I don't have to read about it. My grandfather is Holodomor survivor. My other grandmother was sent with family from Odesa to Birobidzhan (Far East).
Why don't you try to read the russian version of the wikipedia article on the Ribbentrop Molotov agreement? It is not as short as the catchy phrase "USSR and Germany were allies before 1941", but I think it gives a fuller picture of the events.

And while we are speaking about nazi allies here is one of the many links about the ties US had with nazi germany:

https://therealnews.com/d-day-how-the-us-supported-hitlers-r...

And then there is also the british royal family.

In my view, this gives a fuller description of the reality back then .

https://ru-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Польский_похо...

The way I read it, the Soviet Union partnered with Nazi Germany to invade Poland.

This wasn’t the Soviet Union invading Poland to protect Poland against the Nazi invasion. The Soviet Union attacked Poland and fought the Polish army in order to split Polish territories with Nazi Germany.

Not sure how that compares to Ford/IBM selling equipment to the Nazi regime prior to hostilities.

Don't forget Munich Agreement [1] that had happened a year before the respective strategic move on the part of USSR. There's no moral stance to hold against another nation's attemt to get a favourable position (for themselves) if it happens in a wake of and in accordance to their geo-political opponents' moves. The rest of Europe had been acting the same way whilst being busy preparing for a newly emerging conflict.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

Yes, and justifies further the West’s attempts to arm Ukraine to prevent Russia’s territorial aspirations.
well... recently there been serious cleanup of history. this part is neglected and if somebody tries to say opposite they will be charged with glorification of nazism or with "altering historical truth about russia's win in wwII" (or something like this)