[akullpp]

True, my uncle stayed his entire life and now got an insane amount for early retirement.

Myself on the other side worked 2 years as a software engineer and that's as much as I could taake:

* politics

* too many artificial restrictions

* worst management I've ever experienced

* Work doesn't get valued at all, cancelling so many projects and ideas amounting to nothing

* lower reputation than "real" engineers, they still don't understand the value of software, like so many German companies, and treat us as necessary evil, which is also resulting in not competive salary

If you shut up and just come to work every day, you certainly "made it", but for me that's impossible.