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by threeseed 1240 days ago
The difference is that Java has alway been driven from the enterprise.

And so there has been this long investment in frameworks, libraries etc that no one would ever otherwise write. Especially areas like governance, security, compliance, reliability etc.

I think Rust is just going to end up just being a better C++ not a true mainstream language.
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ShredKazoo 1240 days ago
See this article: https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/20/rust_microsoft_c/

* Microsoft Azure's CTO says C and C++ are deprecated

* Most-loved language in StackOverflow dev survey for 7 years running

* Now in the Linux kernel

Sounds like success to me.

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noobermin 1240 days ago
When you say enterprise, who do you mean? Rust is absolutely being pushed by faang et al for example. Just look at the bottom of the Rust foundation page[0]. You do not see this support for things like Nim or Julia[1].

[0] https://foundation.rust-lang.org/

[1] I checked, it looks like intel is funding julia development to some extent. The rest is government research orgs like NSF and DARPA. Okay, that's "large org" support on some scale, although it's clearly because julia is meant for science, not industry.

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Jensson 1240 days ago
FAANG isn't what people typically mean with enterprise, they mean programmers writing internal tools at fortune-500 non-tech organisations. It is very different from FAANG and it is usually boring languages like Java or C#. Think of all the COBOL code they had, those programs are still written and now its Java/C# instead of COBOL.
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hgomersall 1240 days ago
What's a "true mainstream language"?
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