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by dfox
1235 days ago
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Randomizing the link order per release does not solve anything, for this to really work as an mitigation layer, you need to have few different randomly linked versions and randomly give these to the end users. Just randomizing the build does not solve anything as there still is exactly one layout that everyone uses. On another note: automating this on gentoo is cool exercise, but almost certainly if you just build everything locally, the memory layout will be random enough that writing shellcode blindly presents an interesting challenge. (different compiler flags, various probabilistic optimization passes… all that leads to the functions in same object file having different sizes) |
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First, it does. At scale, the probability of everyone running the exact version of every piece of software is 0. If you want, go take a look and see how many users are running a given version of Android.
Also, did you miss when I wrote
> Taking this a step further, create link N randomly sorted copies per version and randomly distribute those
I agree, doing it per version is only just a small amount of coverage. We're in agreement that generating N randomized copies and distributing those evenly is a stronger position because it makes the cost MN where you have M releases that are still running and N variants per release.