[wonderwonder]

you present this as some sort of negative? What is wrong with people being attracted to certain races? People cannot control who they find attractive and there is no racist component to it. People should be allowed to engage in relationships with whoever they want using whatever criteria they want.

[bmn__]

> you present this as some sort of negative?

I'm glad that you formulated this as a question. The answer is no, I presented it value neutral, both by intent and expressed written form.

Now that GGP has a search term, he might soon find out more about the concept and also might admit it into his mind as real and true, as I once did.

[wonderwonder]

Mentioned in another post but I think I misinterpreted your statement. Based on the search term, this appears to be a concept held by the incel community. Are you positioning it as true and if so, as a solvable problem or just a fact of life?

[bmn__]

> this appears to be a concept held by the incel community

Not exclusively. I would bet that many more people who are completely clueless about incelosphere hold that belief. After all, the belief is as old as the advent of mass communication.

> Are you positioning it as true

Yes, I already said that much; also I will consider it true until a preponderance of evidence comes along that blows the pile of current evidence away.

> a solvable problem

That phrase can be interpreted in two ways.

1. Can a person fake being white? I would say, if the goal is a convincing result, then it's difficult for most people because it would involve cosmetic surgery (expensive, non-negligible risk), and ISTR that the skin treatment to make it appear light in colour comes with nasty side effects that cannot be avoided. For a smaller group, suitable contact lenses might be sufficient. Broadly spoken, the trade-off cost/risk/reward seems bad, that's why we don't see much adoption of the practice, but I gauge that solely from canvassing in popular media. I would be very interested in what the sociologists are writing in their scientific journals.

2. Can society be changed to eliminate the JBW bonus? I don't see how, but since it is an entirely social construct, I admit that under the right circumstances, it could happen quickly. Also, as a white myself, I don't have a particular interest to make it happen.

[matheusmoreira]

People are attracted to attributes that cannot be changed even with effort. Face, height, skin color? There is no "solving" that.

[scarmig]

There's a tension between the belief espoused by many on this thread that a man struggling dating is purely a matter of him being an unkempt, terrible person and the fact that arbitrary things like race can make dating a struggle.

[wonderwonder]

I can agree that being a minority in a small pond can make things more difficult in regards to dating but I don't think that is anyone's fault or that anything should be done about it. I took the person I responded to as meaning that preferring a certain race or ethnicity is a negative thing. Perhaps I misunderstood their intent.