[fredsir]

They have to find another solution.

But instead of that lasting forever since their situation never becomes so that they can afford to buy a nice home, which is the case for many people, they only have to deal with that for 10 years at which point they get a lot of choices for nice homes at an affordable price.

It’s the same here in Denmark.

[lettergram]

Gotta say, I feel bad for Europeans. In the states just about everyone can afford what you’d probably consider a “nice home” at an “affordable price”.

To put it into perspective; at 20 my friend bought a house in the suburbs — 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 0.3 acres; decent neighborhood, driveway for his 2 cars; etc. he’s not college educated and cuts trees down for a living.

[ahtihn]

> at 20 my friend bought a house in the suburbs

Now try doing that in the Bay Area?

It's a bit funny to compare "Europeans" to some place in nowhere midwest and a friend that is almost certainly an outlier.

I'm sure you can find 20 year olds that can do the same somewhere in Europe.

[fredsir]

Is that ignoring all the homeless people in the states, the people living in trailers, in their cars and so on while working multiple jobs?

[lettergram]

On average Americans make an income of 2-4x their European counterparts (depending on industry). The houses in the US cost less, taxes are less and opportunities are greater.

You can look this all up.

While there are homeless and people in trailers, on average it’s because (a) they’re drug addicts who don’t want to live by their own rules (b) people living cheap, trying to get ahead or (c) Elderly, often inept, people who get trapped.

Trailer parks are particularly bad as they lock you into (effectively) renting. Outside of a few major(poorly run & corridor) cities, eg Chicago, SF, LA, NYC, etc the homeless rates are relatively low.

[ako]

If that were true, we wouldn’t be having a discussion about affordable housing. Or is this a non-US issue?

[lettergram]

The US doesn’t have an affordable housing issue. A few cities do, primarily due to local regulations / restrictions.

It’s largely that people are interested in particular locations. Not everyone can afford homes in that location, it’s fact of life.

That said, there’s zero need to be homeless in the US. In Detroit you can get a home for free if you promise to repair it.