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by prof-dr-ir 1245 days ago
> 4. "Hacking is cool": literally, this is "get off my lawn".

I do not quite agree with this verdict. Back in the early two thousands there were lots of people who thought it rather cool to just hack around (or more precisely crack around), for example by exploiting SQL injection bugs in whatever web form they encountered.

Of course I might not have a representative impression of the community, but I think this kind of stuff is now much more widely seen as unethical and uncool. So I think the article's prediction that this will "be a dead idea in the next 10 years" was actually quite accurate.

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It's actually hard to argue here given there is so much ambiguity.

Technically "hacking" is often portrait as totally cool and often not negatively connotated ("getting/being hacked" however clearly is). The problem with this is that the meaning has shifted a lot in the meantime. He means mostly cracking I think, while the meaning of "hacking" has shifted to be broadly just altering state/behavior often to something that was not originally intended.

At least he also includes penetration testing as something bad and this has clearly not aged well. For one you can also employ people to do just that and it's pretty essential for applications with big security implications and the other part is the invitation to "hack" the application/system at hand seen with bug bounty programs. The actual practice seems to contradict his point here.

You can also interpret it in a way that it is not going to improve your security just by virtue of having pen testing, which is true. However I feel like nobody argued that. Pen testing/bug bounties are there to actually get attention of exploits you might not get otherwise and therefore a prerequisite for fixing exploits. Or said differently: If you think you hardened your application/system so much that it's impenetrable, how could it hurt if people try to break it and tell you if they are able to. People will try anyway, but they might not tell you.