[nobody9999]

>The article is about prison mail. It has nothing to do with police officers and does not mention the "government monopoly on violence."

No. The article is about jail mail. While "prison" and "jail" are often used interchangeably, they are not (at least in the US) the same thing.

Jails are for folks being detained before trial (i.e., they are innocent as they haven't been proven/pled guilty) or incarcerated for minor crimes (with a sentence of less than 1-2 years).

Prisons are for people who have been convicted of serious crimes (with sentences longer than a year or two).

That's not to say that those in prison should be exploited/abused, but this policy change affects those who haven't even been convicted of a crime.

As a rule, I'm usually disgusted by the US "justice" system. I'm even more disgusted now.

[D13Fd]

It's about both prisons and jails. From the article:

> The proposed changes follow a nationwide trend of prisons and jails moving to stop incarcerated people from receiving physical mail. Prisons in Pennsylvania stopped physical mail in 2018, and prisons in Massachusetts started sending incarcerated people photocopies of original letters. Last year, prisons in New Mexico and Florida adopted similar changes, and Texas has also limited in-person mail.

Obviously it's a bit more relevant to prisons where prisoners tend to stay longer and are more likely to receive mail.

Also, none of this shows that the article has anything to do with police department corruption.

[nobody9999]

Yeah, but WRT this horrendously egregious policy, I didn't (and won't) address facilities other than NYC jails, as that's most relevant to me.

This article isn't about front line police, yet you keep bringing them up. Why is that?

In fact, I didn't mention the police at all (although, as others have noted, corrections officers generally are sworn LEOs), so I don't know why you have such a hard on for cops[0].

No, not all cops are sadistic, power-drunk scumbags. But one is too many. cf. Daniel Pantaleo[1], Derek Chauvin[2] or Joseph Franco[3]. There are hundreds more that we know about. Which leaves many, many more we don't know about.

Why don't you invite some of these folks over for dinner so you can tell them how much you love and respect them? Well not Chauvin, as he's in prison, but you better hurry because Mr. Franco will be soon too.

[0]When I was a kid, it was clear that the police were just the biggest and best armed gang -- with qualified immunity -- in NYC. And since I saw and experienced that dynamic a bunch of times over the years, the police themselves proved that to be true. Over and over again. There have been a few positive changes over the last decade or so, but not nearly enough. Certainly not enough to change my view of the police.

[1] https://abcnews.go.com/US/nypd-officer-put-eric-garner-letha...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Chauvin

[3] https://abc7ny.com/joseph-franco-nypd-detective-convictions-...

Edit: Used "jail" when "prison" was the appropriate term. Fixed.

[D13Fd]

> This article isn't about front line police, yet you keep bringing them up. Why is that?

This is literally my point in this thread. The article is not about the police and I don't understand why people are steering the discussion that way.

[nobody9999]

>This is literally my point in this thread. The article is not about the police and I don't understand why people are steering the discussion that way.

I didn't even mention police. You did.

So who is it that's steering the discussion in that direction?