[Broue]

As a long time patchwork user —April 2017 for the win…— that just recently quit, I could see how the multitude of half finished clients, deprecated functionality would get to that outcome.

SSB is dead, other than the few trying to make a go financially at it, via either crowdfunding, NLnet grants, or VC.

I've reverted to Web 1.0 blogging, with none of the bs that is consistent with using a archived client, focus on trying to fit a database into a mobile app — without regard to front end functionality.

> When I look at Beaker, I think it was probably 50% easy. The initial demo took 2 weeks: 20%. It was a full website editor in about 2 months: 30%. The feedback was great: 50%. The users didn't stick: 50%. We got invited to talks which increased exposure: 51%. A few niche communities took an interest: 53%. Folks liked it enough to donate via OpenCollective and Patreon: 54%. You get the idea. Notably absent is "usage and retention went through the roof: 80%" and then "usage continued to grow for years: 100%."

Everything that pfrazee wrote here about Beaker Browser at https://github.com/beakerbrowser/beaker/blob/master/archive-... is true for ssb.

[staltz]

What makes you think it is dead when there are active users every day, development is active, and there's a developer conference this week (https://p2p-basel.org/)?

[Broue]

Simple,

1. it hasn’t grown past the early adopter phase 2. There is no product-market fit.

The evidence I have is the litany of dead accounts that follow my account. Luckily, via mastodon I’ve been able to reconnect with those people.

As someone else has mentioned mastodon is doing quite well. And from experience Web 1.0 blogging is a breath of fresh air.

The Nile is not just a river in Egypt.

[staltz]

That's a very limiting definition of 'death' and it may as well have applied for "Linux Desktop", yet Linux as a Desktop choice is increasingly popular, just not at a growth rate that would satisfy Silicon Valley: https://www.justingarrison.com/blog/year-of-linux-desktop/

As for 1: you don't have metrics for that. As for 2: you don't have metrics for that.

[Broue]

I wish you all the success with your grants and crowdfunding. We disagree with the feasibility of ssb as a platform, but either one of us trying to sway each other from their position may prove to be a foolish errand. Fair winds.

[tarasglek]

That's interesting, will read. Thank you for the pointer.