[3836293648]

Please say that that is from the old testament

[paulryanrogers]

No. Revelation, IIRC

[nhtsamera]

Yeah, it's actually one of the last sentences in the New Testament - Revelations 22:18.

Jesus did his best to tone down the fire and brimstone, but the Abrahamic god is not a particularly forgiving one.

[krapp]

What's interesting about that is it's obviously only referring to the book of Revelations itself, since "The Bible" as such didn't even exist at the time, if it isn't a late addition. Yet Christians apply it to scripture as a whole.

Also, IIRC, Revelations almost didn't even make it into the Biblical canon, like a lot of other apocryphal books it was considered too crazy for the mainstream.

[dragonwriter]

> Yet Christians apply it to scripture as a whole.

I mean. some do, but, that’s hardly the only position.

http://actsapologist.blogspot.com/2016/05/how-does-catholic-...

[bazoom42]

The Bible did exist, just not the section called the new testament.

[krapp]

"The Bible" is a Christian invention. What existed was the Torah and other Hebrew texts, whose incorporation into Christian canon is based on retroactive continuity, and has never been recognized as valid within Judaism.

[bazoom42]

AFAIK Bible is from Greek and was used by Greek speaking Jews to refer to their sacred books.

[bitbang]

You have no clue what you're talking about. Jesus spoke more regarding the topic of hell than everybody else in the bible _combined_.

[3836293648]

Of course he did, hell is a Christian concept that isn't accepted by modern Judaism and was a divisive topic during ancient Judaism

[bazoom42]

> Jesus did his best to tone down the fire and brimstone

Jesus introduced the fire and brimstones. The old testament does not really have the concept of hell or eternal punishment.

[paulryanrogers]

IDK. Jesus supposedly also plans to be the one to decides who to cast into everlasting flames or eternal paradise.