And good luck getting off that list if you're on a hosted VPS... they're about impossible... I can get through to hotmail and o365, but not the outlook.com block. (shrug)
I'm relaying through SendGrid as I just don't have that many emails coming from/through my server that it's worth the lowest paid level (there is a free tier) to have to worry about it...
I've been considering setting up a higher end server (compared to the $20/mo vps I'd been using) at a data center and seeing what I can manage as a direct mail host without the relay. But 10x-ing my costs just doesn't feel right for something that will take more time and not generate revenue that I'm not that passionate about.
For those curious, been looking at WildDuck mail which seems like an interesting structure and the features are cool, just not sure I want to go through it all. I've been using Mailu via docker-compose on DigitalOcean for a couple years for all my lesser used domains/addresses, relaying through SendGrid. It works but kind of annoying going through setting up each domain added through the relay.
Ironically, SendGrid is the main source of spam passing through my spam filters; but I can't block it because about 1/4th of emails I get from them are not spam
I'm relaying through SendGrid as I just don't have that many emails coming from/through my server that it's worth the lowest paid level (there is a free tier) to have to worry about it...
I've been considering setting up a higher end server (compared to the $20/mo vps I'd been using) at a data center and seeing what I can manage as a direct mail host without the relay. But 10x-ing my costs just doesn't feel right for something that will take more time and not generate revenue that I'm not that passionate about.
For those curious, been looking at WildDuck mail which seems like an interesting structure and the features are cool, just not sure I want to go through it all. I've been using Mailu via docker-compose on DigitalOcean for a couple years for all my lesser used domains/addresses, relaying through SendGrid. It works but kind of annoying going through setting up each domain added through the relay.