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by ablatt89 1244 days ago
10x engineers unfortunately seem to never make it up the management chain, as they are threats to management and management just wants them to output things. Ironically 10x engineers can do architecting, project planning, and run sprints without managers and do it better, but will never be even offered a low level management position. Bonuses might be good but long term career prospects for any company seem pretty low if there's intent to "move up", unless maybe for a startup or making their own business.
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Is this really true? I joined a small team in 2017 and carried them to success by building many applications at high speed. Now my team has tripled in size since then, and I have had multiple promotions and have around 5 reports on average

I find it unlikely that I'm the only person who knows the simple tactic "I will quit if you can't meet this demand", so do you have any more materials to back this up? Or is it simply a feeling (don't get me wrong, clearly that's what I'm operating off too in this arena)

This is rational though. Why would you take someone who's a 10x at their current job and move them to a different job with a completely different set of skill requirements where they might not even be a 1x, and almost certainly won't be a 10x. It's a negative for the developer if they wanted to move into management, but I don't think it has anything to do with management feeling threatened.
I have tried moving up the management chain (PM/TPM/Architect/C*). The biggest challenge I found is that generally I was still the most productive engineer available to apply to most problems, so I still spent time writing code (the alternative was like watching a fire burn out of control while holding a fire extinguisher). In some orgs (particularly bigger enterprises) that hit up against a wall of expectations for what people in my role could/should do. Eventually I settled on consulting as better fit--I still do stuff across the full spectrum, but as an outsider I'm not expected to fit into a particular box.
This is where a good IC track at companies that have it are a thing