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by mensetmanusman 1244 days ago
Would be fun to see if it’s possible to set up the experiment as a double slit.

Would humans sense an interference pattern? Is the back of an eye a sufficient observer? :)

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> Is the back of an eye a sufficient observer? :)

It definitely is. The retina "measures" photon positions, which is why you see images. Observation is just interaction, no need to consider whether A can observe B. If they interact, some kind of observation takes place.

When the photon passes through the lens and the watery liquid part, its path is bent by refraction.

Does that process also count as an "interaction", or is that different to what happens when the photon hits the retina?

It does count as interaction. The systems are different.
When you look at the flickering pattern a laser pointer makes on a rough surface, that flickering pattern is similar in nature to the double slit interference, and you are seeing it with your eyes.

Don't forget that the interference pattern is a statistical one, you need to average over a number of photons to "see" it emerge.

Yep! Any interaction counts. If something interacts with a photon, and that interaction can only happen if it goes through one of the two slits (i.e., it tells you "which way" the photon went), then the interference pattern will disappear.
What escapes my understanding with the whole "interaction is observation" thing is that I don't get how anything could ever not be interacting with a whole lot of other stuff. Gravity and EM fields are everywhere. Even if photons are somehow immune to that (which, they're not, because gravity can re-direct photons) it's my understanding that we can see the same interference patterns with particle streams of ordinary matter, and I can't for the life of me figure out how those could ever not be interacting with basically everything remotely nearby, including the entire test apparatus.
> Gravity and EM fields are everywhere.

And now you understand why "quantum gravity" is such a big question in physics right now! We don't understand it all. I actually don't know anything about how EM fields affect superposition, perhaps someone else can chime in.

The feeling of asking a question and realizing you've reached the edge of human understanding is very fun
Yup, everything interacts with everything close by all the time.

The important thing is by how much, and what sort of interference patterns can this produce.

As it turns out, interference is quite hard to produce randomly because two fields only produce wavering patterns when their frequency and other parameters are almost equal.

So yes, the ball you just threw to your friend is actually spread out over a whole region, that spread is about 10^-34 m so it impact is not visible at all.

The short answer (as I understand it) is that decoherence is not binary. The gravitational field may be able to partially resolve the position, for example, and so you only get slight reduction in interference.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/34993/reversing-...