[aeno]

At least if your car is registered in a European Union country, you will still get a ticket. It takes some days, but eventually it will appear in your mailbox at home.

You could get away with simply not paying, as collection would be too much of a hassle. But they'll note your plates and the next time you're back into Norway and your plate gets scanned, they might visit you right on the spot to collect your debts.

[jabl]

Yup, that kind of thing can happen. Many years ago I was in Norway with a friend, and a truck cut a corner on the road and scraped the side of my friends car. The truck driver refused any responsibility (evidently because we were tourists, and he knew we weren't gonna stay in Norway to drive claims against him), but we took pictures and all the details etc.

Insurance paid for the repairs to the car, and apparently the insurance company arranged for an outstanding warrant on the truck/driver, and several years later my friend got a notice from the insurance company that the truck driver had been detained upon entering Finland and forced to pay.

[gggggg5]

The big thing here is that the driver was identified, you got his details.

Same thing does not really happen with camera-issued fines, even if technically feasible given a good quality picture of the drivers face.

[iso1631]

In the UK and I assume much of Europe, the registered keeper of the car gets the ticket, they have to identifty the driver. If they refuse to identify the driver then they get a separate punishment which is about the same as the speeding ticket.

[gggggg5]

UK doesn't even send driver identification letters to keepers of foreign registered vehicles due to jurisdictional issues. They just sell the data to a private company that sends intimidating TV licensing-esque letters (but not actual invoices!) in the hopes of getting paid.

>If they refuse to identify the driver then they get a separate punishment which is about the same as the speeding ticket.

This doesn't work unless the keeper is UK based.

[bradknowles]

When my wife and I were living in Brussels, Belgium but I was working for a Dutch consulting company in Veldhoven, Netherlands, on one occasion I got caught by a speed trap outside of Antwerp.

The Antwerp police had to send the ticket to the Netherlands, because that's where the car was registered. Which took some time to go through the political process.

But the car was a lease, so the police had to re-send the ticket to the company I was working for. Which took some more time.

Then the company pointed out that I lived in Brussels, so the police had to re-send the ticket again. Which took even more time.

I finally got the ticket more than a year after the event, and I went down to the local police station to find out what I had to do.

The local Brussels police took the ticket and looked it up in their systems, and finally told me that the ticket was expired and had not been sent to me in time (there is apparently a one year grace period), and so I didn't need to do anything at all.

[gggggg5]

And at many points in that process the company which received the fine could've replied with "It's not our problem to help foreign law enforcement figure out who was driving"

Dutch LE doesn't have any tools to compel entities outside of their jurisdiction to provide such data.

[gggggg5]

The magic solution to this is to have the car owned by some legal entity which is not the driver. Fines might arrive, but you can wipe your ass with them.

There might be fines associated with the plates, but fines are the responsibility of the driver and not the owner. Even if the cops were able to ID as you the driver in those previous incidents, they would not be able to seize the car (not that this would generally be possible without an extensive legal process anyway).

And FWIW in the case of Norway, you will never get stopped for having unpaid fines.