[didericis]

https://youtu.be/Zmtc22uPLd4

I’m not a chemist/someone else can offer a more detailed explanation (just love the excuse to post that song), but with most of these kinds of things the energy and advanced equipment required to go in a theoretically plausible direction for a minuscule amount of yield is usually absurd. Including turning iron into gold. (I think it might theoretically be possible to do that at this point as well, but if it is possible I’m sure it’d be astronomically energy intensive and wasteful to manipulate matter to that degree)

[otikik]

The way to turn iron to gold is ancient: smelt the iron, make a weapon with it, and use that to steal the gold from someone else.

[agumonkey]

teleochemistry

[outworlder]

Turning iron to gold is not possible as a chemical reaction. They are elements. You need a nuclear reaction.

[40yearoldman]

Ahh! So it is possible, just need a nuclear reaction!

[trompetenaccoun]

It's quite simple: Gather a sufficient amount of iron (4 million times earth's mass will probably do). Bring it all in one place, it will naturally compact. Wait for the resulting supernova - you do want to keep your distance for this step. Lastly collect gold and other heavy elements.

[outworlder]

Yeah. It's even better since you are starting with iron, don't have to wait billions of years for everything to burn first.

[trompetenaccoun]

Exactly right. And to think there are still simpletons who dig in the ground for gold like neolithic primitives. Of course the doubters don't want us to know about this simple trick for turning iron into gold.

[didericis]

I have a vague memory of someone or some article saying there’s a way to get from lead to gold if you really wanted to with some combination of available nuclear tech, but it’d be completely absurd/ludicrously expensive (I think the context was somebody humoring what would be needed for atomic level assembly/star trek replicator stuff). I assume the same would apply to iron.

[andrewflnr]

Yeah, but even worse. You need to add a lot of nucleons to iron just to get to (impure, radioactive) lead, and then from there to gold.

[cowpig]

Iron (26) -> Lead (82) -> Gold (79)

How does that work?

[andrewflnr]

Ha, woops. I was just assuming Gold had higher atomic number. But I don't know, maybe a convenient positron emission decay path.

[Schroedingersat]

You smash a proton into it and knock a light atom nucleus off. Works every time about 2% of the time.

For the stuff that doesn't end up as gold you can just keep hitting it with neutrons until it's heavy enough to try again.