[fallingknife]

If we can't eat all the meat we want without destroying the planet, that tells me we need to manage down the population, not the standard of living. I'm not willing to give up one single shred of my standard of living to this braindead cram as many people as possible on the planet challenge.

[Attrecomet]

Good news! We're on our way to do both, scale down the population AND the standard of living!