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by itsyaboi 1254 days ago
What a weak interpretation.

> The author of this article seems to make some very obscure points here. First and foremost: "You have to work pretty hard to find a bar serving traditional Germanic beverages and food." What does the author define as "Germanic" beverages and food? As a german that has lived for some time in Berlin I'm quite sure that there are more than enough places to grab "Germanic" beverages and food at. They just don't stand out much. [EDIT: For those who don't know, Germanic doesn't mean German. Germanic means something different]

You yourself admit that these places "don't stand out much". Does this not support the authors point that he had to work hard to find these places?

> I also like to mention that many places prefer cash only in Germany for tax evasion reasons, not because of some made-up "grassroots pushback" against the big, scary globalism of.. foreign restaurants. (???)

Private payment processors (like MasterCard and Visa) can for any and no reason refuse their services. Ridiculing and dismissing the author's concern by pulling out the "big scary globalism" straw man is disingenuous.

> Another obscure point is that "eager-looking under 18s try to get in [beer breweries], only to be politely turned away without any fracas." which is again, a very stupid point to make, since you are allowed to buy beer at 16 in Germany already.

18 and older for beverages over 1.2% ABV (which is most beers).

> Then he quotes a person of supposedly Eritrean descent saying “But the people coming now, they don’t learn German and they don’t want to work.” which sounds pretty much like your average alt-right talking point, that has been disproven over and over again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

2 comments

https://www.kenn-dein-limit.de/alkoholberatung/informationen...

You can definitely buy beer.

> Does this not support the authors point that he had to work hard to find these places?

Just because a tourist is too ignorant to find these places doesn't mean they don't exist. There are plenty of them. They are mostly old-school and don't have big ads outside. Use google maps. There are plenty.

> Private payment processors (like MasterCard and Visa) can for any and no reason refuse their services. Ridiculing and dismissing the author's concern by pulling out the "big scary globalism" straw man is disingenuous.

If you're pushing for cash-only or card-only other than for tax evasion reasons you're pretty much ideologically tainted.

Otherwise, I'm no longer going to discuss this "journalist outlet" that is just a mouthpiece for alt-right propaganda. Especially one that can't differentiate between germanic and german.

> You can definitely buy beer.

Where did I say that you could not buy beer? Please re-read the original claim.

> Just because a tourist is too ignorant to find these places doesn't mean they don't exist. There are plenty of them. They are mostly old-school and don't have big ads outside. Use google maps. There are plenty.

Again, where did I (or the original article) claim that these places don't exist? You continue responding to imaginary claims, this is no way to communicate.

> If you're pushing for cash-only or card-only other than for tax evasion reasons you're pretty much ideologically tainted. Otherwise, I'm no longer going to discuss this "journalist outlet" that is just a mouthpiece for alt-right propaganda. Especially one that can't differentiate between germanic and german.

What a arrogant and dismissive statement. You seem to have taken offense at the author for not properly differentiating between germanic and german. Why is this so important to you?

Germany is probably the european country i know the less, despite learning german in school and working at a franco-german company for my second internship. So i won't talk about the traditionnal restaurant in germany, but just so you know: In France, Spain and Portugal, traditional restaurants don't stand out much (With the exception of French Bouillons like Chartier maybe?).

So maybe you have some points in your comment, but considering you're obviously totally wrong on the private payment processors (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A...), i'd think your interpretation might be weaker.

Is there a specific section of legalese you meant to link to? If not, it's a bit foolish on your part to expect the average (non-legal expert) to parse this. I let ChatGPT do it for me.

Prompt: Summarize the contents of EU 2015/2366

Response: EU 2015/2366, also known as the Payment Services Directive 2 (PSD2), is a European Union directive that regulates payment services and payment service providers within the EU. It aims to increase competition and innovation in the payments industry, as well as enhance security and consumer protection. The directive requires payment service providers to implement strong customer authentication for electronic payments, and also allows for the use of third-party providers for certain payment-related services, such as account information and payment initiation. Additionally, it also includes provisions for the protection of consumer rights, such as the right to a refund in case of unauthorized payment transactions. Overall, it's a set of rules to increase safety and transparency of online payments and to foster competition between payment service providers, which ultimately should lead to better services and lower prices for consumers.

The only consumer rights mentioned are the right to refunds for unauthorized transactions. To the best of my knowledge, these companies can choose to cease doing business with you for any or no reason at all. Feel free to prove me wrong.