[afavour]

They did? Oh JFC I just switched from 1Password to avoid using a VC backed service. At least there's always Vaultwarden, now all I need is a service I can pay to host an instance for me. ...and to not take VC funding.

https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden

Though I fear it’s only a matter of time before the VC gods demand the client apps remove compatibility and they have to be forked too.

[jorvi]

I switched from 1Password to Bitwarden, imported my vault, and then realized that their client doesn’t even support drag ‘n drop.

I’ve been wanting to switch from 1Password to Bitwarden for years, but each year I try it I’m just flummoxed by how atrociously behind the UX / UI still is.

Unless you (or whoever you’re getting to switch) are an absolute open source absolutist: do yourself a favor and go for 1Password.

[panzi]

Bitwarden is the first password manager I ever used. Where would it use drag and drop and for what? I wish it would be better controllable vie keyboard-only. That is, when you use the Firefox add on and tab out of the Bitwarden popup and tab back in again it remembers the focus on e.g. the copy password button, you just have to hit space again and tab back to the terminal window where you need to use the password. But Brave doesn't remember the focus so annoyingly I have to grab the mouse.

[selykg]

In 1Password there's at least a half dozen ways that drag and drop could be used:

- Drag a password into a password field

- Drag an attachment from Finder/Explorer into an item

- Drag an item from vault to vault (or collection in Bitwarden parlance)

- Drag an item into a tag or folder to add that item to the folder, or add that tag to the item

- Drag an app to the 1Password icon to create a software license item with the icon of the app as well as name

There are also drag and drop functions, some similar to above, on iOS as well.

Bitwarden is... and I agree with the grand parent here, awful from a UX angle, compared to 1Password. It's certainly functional, but that's about where it ends for me.

[dddw]

You must be on mac, because my 1pw experience is horrible on Linux. Edit a password in the browserextention opens an new tab in n which i have to login all again. Ugh. Bitwarden at least doesn't do that. Drag and drop? Nope.

[darksfall]

I use 1Password on Linux and this isn't my experience.

Until recently I was using it for two different accounts in the same 1Password business account, one account enabled with integration to the desktop app and a second account on another browser profile (for admin purposes) with just the browser extension.

Neither of those necessitated logging in again in another tab.

Still using 1Password, but Firefox containers have removed the need for multiple Firefox profiles.

For a second business I use Bitwarden, and that works well, but I find 1Password superior in so many respects.

[selykg]

Technically it does the same thing on Mac, it opens the Mac app. But on a Mac there's universal unlock, so if you have the extension unlocked, the app will unlock, so it opens the item you want to edit in edit mode.

If you don't have the app installed it opens the website in a tab to signin and edit.

[jorvi]

With 1Password 8, AgileBits made 1Password an universal Electron app. Experience is virtually the same whether you are on Mac, Windows or Linux.

The 1Password browser extension and application should sync, but it’s experimental on Linux AFAIK.

[afavour]

I did try to switch a year or so ago and got really frustrated. Tried again a week ago and Bitwarden does seem a little better. It helps that it feels like 1Password's app has been getting more bloated over time (though I have no data to support that assertion).

[roustem]

1Password certainly added a ton of new features recently :)

Did you check 1Password developer tools, like SSH-agent server, git commit signing, and CLI? https://developer.1password.com/

Or the new item and file sharing. https://support.1password.com/share-items/

[afavour]

I have no interest in those things, they're good examples of what I don't want in my password manager.

Sorry, I don't mean to sound like an ass, they look like very well put together features. They just remind me of when Dropbox decided to start offering document editing. Not what I go there for.

[roustem]

Fair enough, everyone has their own requirements. I'd argue that all modern operating systems have password management already built-in.

We have a lot of 1Password customers with families and team members that require more than a single vault, need an option to recover team/family member access and often have to securely share data with other people, accountants and lawyers. Also, many of developers and admins that want to keep their SSH keys safe.

[miked85]

I refuse to use a cloud-based password manager, they will all be hacked eventually. I will continue to use and pay for the standalone 1Password as long as possible, and then be forced to self-host vaultwarden.

[jorvi]

Almost two decades without any serious breach does inspire some confidence.

I put them under the same reliability umbrella (maybe even a touch higher) than Fastmail, which is high praise IMO.

[mfer]

Not to totally burst your bubble but 1Password took funding a few years ago [1]. I say this as a 1Password user.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/password-manager-1password-rais...

[afavour]

Oh I know, I switched from 1Password to Bitwarden for exactly that reason.

[hardwaresofton]

Hey I’m building a service[0] that will do just that —- mind if I get in touch with you? Or feel free to send me an email!

I selfhost and use Vaultwarden myself and it is fantastic, so I wanted to support it on Nimbus fairly quickly (it’s going to jump the queue).

Deciding never to take VC funding is a big step but I’m definitely open to it as I’m trying to build a “lifestyle” competitor to AWS.

[0]: https://nimbusws.com