[Ombudsman]

You also have to realise most lot of people here are not sheltered. We've experienced post election violence first hand in 2008, tribes killing other tribes, we also have a culture of burning petty thieves alive. We experience violence first hand. I don't think violent text is going to affect anyone the way you think it is.

[replwoacause]

A lot of people aren't sheltered, but it doesn't mean they should be required to do traumatic work for little pay. Also, it was more than looking at violent text. Just because the people there already face hardships that may be greater than looking at graphic text and imagery doesn't mean the world should just pile on because their daily lives are already bad. That just makes a bad situation even worse.

[nickthegreek]

They are not required to do traumatic work.

[zoklet-enjoyer]

How is reading text traumatic work?

[replwoacause]

Sounds like you haven't read the article either. It was more than just reading text but the text was traumatic too:

"One Sama worker tasked with reading and labeling text for OpenAI told TIME he suffered from recurring visions after reading a graphic description of a man having sex with a dog in the presence of a young child. “That was torture,” he said. “You will read a number of statements like that all through the week. By the time it gets to Friday, you are disturbed from thinking through that picture.” The work’s traumatic nature eventually led Sama to cancel all its work for OpenAI in February 2022, eight months earlier than planned."

[zoklet-enjoyer]

Did he have to read the entire thing? Just skim it and mark it as obscene. I don't understand what the big deal is.

[honkler]

why not just | grep "sex"

[falcolas]

> We experience violence first hand. I don't think violent text is going to affect anyone the way you think it is.

I'll be glad when this kind of "suck it up buttercup" bullshit is gone from our world.

Yeah, violence hardens people. Most often to the point where they're one light tap away from shattering. PTSD is a real thing, and just because folks in Africa aren't being diagnosed with it doesn't mean witnesses to this violence don't have it.

This kind of attitude - that since we've seen some shit we're immune to it all - is just a badly misplaced sense of pride.

And that misplaced pride just hurts people.

[Ombudsman]

I'm not taking any pride in that statement. I'm just trying to highlight how because of the way our culture is, these sorts of texts are relatively tame. I'd actually like for us to get to a place where violence is not ingrained in our society.