[xyzelement]

// there is no guarantee even with persistence and a good attitude

// Such is life, we can't choose what we inherit

I agree that there's no guarantees but something conspicuously missing from this story is anything you've done to better the odds.

Do you go to the gym or work out at home? Have you found a barber who cuts your hair well? Have you had a fashionable friend help you with your wardrobe? Have you spent any time practicing small talk or put any emphasis on becoming more charming?

None of these things guarantee success either but it's weird to not hear about any work you had put in to make this happen (not saying you haven't done it just you didn't mention it)

[moralestapia]

Dude, come on, that's what TFA's about lol.

[xyzelement]

Yup and I disagree with it. I don't blame the dude for the outcome, sometimes you do what you can and it doesn't work out. But did he do what he could?

[fluoridation]

>Yup and I disagree with it. I don't blame the dude for the outcome, sometimes you do what you can and it doesn't work out.

If it's the case that you can do everything you can and still fail, how are you disagreeing with the article?

[s1artibartfast]

Not gp. Actually agree with the article, but I find it interesting that people seem to be latching on to the first part and ignoring the second part. The article doesn't suggest a solution as much as present a conflict between the two.

Trying to resolve that conflict raises a number of questions: Have you done everything you can? If there's a possibility or even likelihood that you'll fail, should you still try?

[xyzelement]

// If it's the case that you can do everything you can and still fail, how are you disagreeing with the article

It's about moving the probably of desired outcome from zero to likely. Like, let's say op really wanted someone to "touch his genitals"- badly enough to invest a year in working on his physique, appearance, and personality. There's still no guarantee that it will work but it will move the odds tremendously.

If he does nothing, he's taking the guaranteed fail and I think that's sad.

[int_19h]

Is it moving them from "zero" to "likely", or from "zero" to "nonzero but still very unlikely"?

Because for a lot of people it's really the latter, and it's no surprise when working out hard to basically buy a lottery ticket is not something they are enthusiastic about.

[s1artibartfast]

>quarantined fail

What does this mean? Im not familiar with the term

[xyzelement]

Typo of "guaranteed" - fixed it, thanks.