[cjdoc29]

Can you cite "various US agencies stats"? I say this as someone who used FSD Beta for a full year and Autopilot (with Navigate on Autopilot) for over 3 years now. It would actually help the conversation here to cite it, though I never knew third-parties evaluated Tesla's claims/statistics.

[AlexandrB]

There's also a strong selection bias to a bulk stat like the one parent mentioned. Teslas are expensive cars and I'm guessing their drivers are likely to be older, more affluent, and more educated that average - this all correlates to lower accidents/fatalities regardless of FSD[1][2].

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24103823/

[2] https://personalinjurylawyersaustintx.com/blog/education-lev...

[gorango]

You are absolutely correct - Tesla's own report acknowledges this, but it also highlights how this safety stat is dwarfed when autopilot is active: https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/tesla/5f93...

Reference: https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport