[sam345]

This just shows another reason EVs are unrealistic at least in rural USA. 200 km or 125 miles in cold weather. And that's for a Tesla a top of the line EV. Even if you live in the city most people want ability to travel long distances. I just reviewed consumer reports reviews of EVs. Not at all impressed. Overall ratings were very low for most cars. Charging is proprietary for the most part or slow or just in general a hassle. To get decent reviews you need to spend $50k at minimum. The tax rebate may help to extend the fantasy for a while but even Tesla owners are getting disillusioned. For the most part Tesla has saturated the market for high end EVs and the rest are low quality or suffer technical problems. I mean the vision is enticing but most Americans won't put up with the expense and hassle. And attempts to legislate the hassle won't bode well for politicians or will result in the predictable deadline extensions. And this is not even taking into consideration the extreme burden it will put on the grid which is not at all prepared for hundreds of millions of electric vehicles.

[jabart]

If you are driving an hour both ways every day in a cold climate, yeah, EV probably isn't the right fit for another couple of years. It's also an extreme end of usage. I imagine that a large portion of those people in a rural community don't drive more than 60 miles a day. It is also why the average commute per a person is not 125 miles but substantially less in the US.

For reference, 125 miles is about Louisville, KY to Indianapolis, IN.

[sam345]

125 miles is nothing in the US. It's not about commuting, it's about road trips to the next city, the next state. Sure most people are not doing that every day but they are doing that a few times a year to visit friends, family, and for business. And then what? Meticulouly planning your charges and timing your breaks? or taking a bus or a plane? If you've just spent $50,000 on an EV I would imagine you want to drive not worry about whether you are going to be stuck without a charge. EV success is about selling to the average driver, not EV and green enthusiasts.

[pornel]

It's the range between charging stops, not the range until you abandon the car and walk.

With the current 800V battery tech you need to spend 20-30 minutes charging per 2-3 hours of driving. It's not as fast as a pee-in-the-bottle cannonball run, but only about 10% slower than a normal ICE car trip time.

Check out actual times with https://abetterrouteplanner.com with a fast-charging car like a recent Tesla model or Kia EV6/Ioniq 5/GV60.

[seanmcdirmid]

If by meticulously planning you mean using a navigation system that most EVs come with, I don’t see why this is hard? Sure, Tesla provides better routing software than EV manufacturers, but this isn’t a hard problem (this is HN, so we should have some affinity for software).