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by greggarious 1248 days ago
Depends on how you define “glacial” - America hadn’t been a true democracy long, we only passed the 19th Amendment in 1920, and most ppl wouldn’t define an election where half the population is ineligible as democratic.

I first discovered this piece in 2016, in the throes of a deep depression at seeing how the sausage is made on K Street.

These two paragraphs are what grabbed me most, as someone who began to form memories as the USSR crumbled:

>Mr. A has a life that is established according to a certain form of personal behavior. Although he has no money, his unostentatious distinction and education have always assured him a position. He has never been engaged in sharp competition. He is a free man. I doubt whether ever in his life he has done anything he did not want to do or anything that was against his code. Nazism wouldn’t fit in with his standards and he has never become accustomed to making concessions.

>Mr. B has risen beyond his real abilities by virtue of health, good looks, and being a good mixer. He married for money and he has done lots of other things for money. His code is not his own; it is that of his class—no worse, no better, He fits easily into whatever pattern is successful. That is his sole measure of value—success. Nazism as a minority movement would not attract him. As a movement likely to attain power, it would.

The real issue IMO is that history is oddly cyclical - probably due to mass media overfocusing on body counts like those in Hitler’s Germany rather than regimes like the GDR which had fax machines, modems, and a secret police who made the Gestapo look like amateurs.

We forget how close in history totalitarianism is, partly because of measures like “no child left behind” that ensure kids today won’t have the free time to develop true critical thinking skills.

(By accident or design? I couldn’t possibly comment.)

- Greg

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As to 19A (and theory and practice of democracy) I note that Switzerland didn't have full female federal suffrage until 1990. Horrible reactionaries! And yet, since 1990, they have had 5 different female Presidents, serving a total of 8 terms...

Mr. A reminds me of le Guin's Dispossessed, in which an anarchist physicist is surprised (and dismayed) to find his paleo-aristo colleague is one of the few people on his own planet who behaves in a manner our anarchist protagonist would consider free.

Mr. B reminds me of a character from one of the (non-Nazi) Mitford sisters' novels, who did indeed marry for status, just as his spouse married for industry and elbows. Not all Daisy's spurn their Gatsby's.

(and, as the USSR crumbled, should it surprise us that the Gorbi's would be crowded out by Mr. B's? Единая Россия has a strange adjective ["Indivisible"] for a party that claims to be running an антифашистская спецоперация, but as their "presidential debates" seem to have been put on mainly to mock the format, I'm not sure if the irony is entirely unintentional)

I recently learned (from HN?) that Microsoft was already incorporated while Spain was still fascist (by a few months...but still!) and I had an impression, when visiting this century, that discussing Dali was welcome, but discussing the fate of the Republic was a bit "too soon".

[as to the antepenultimate paragraph: I had guessed the young Pound might've been in the never Nazi camp, but time and chance and bitterness indeed led the elder Pound right to Mussolini.]

>As to 19A (and theory and practice of democracy) I note that Switzerland didn't have full female federal suffrage until 1990.

!!!!!

I did not know this. To be fair it looks like except for one Canton it came in the 70s? (from Wikipedia):

Women in Switzerland gained the right to vote in federal elections after a referendum in February 1971.[1] The first federal vote in which women were able to participate was the 31 October 1971 election of the Federal Assembly.[2] However it was not until a 1990 decision by the Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland that women gained full voting rights in the final Swiss canton of Appenzell Innerrhoden.[3]

They really take that hyperlocal stuff seriously it seems? I knew naturalization was also a PITA but... sheesh!

I might have a biased views since everyone I met was a PhD student or staying in my hostel, but ll the Swiss folks I've met were extremely egalitarian. (The academics sometimes hated me because I had hacked* my way into Carnegie Mellon despite never going to school there, but at least we were on the same page that everyone can vote, everyone can be an engineer, etc etc.

>I recently learned (from HN?) that Microsoft was already incorporated while Spain was still fascist (by a few months...but still!) and I had an impression, when visiting this century, that discussing Dali was welcome, but discussing the fate of the Republic was a bit "too soon".

Art people are the worst, I just took a tour of a museum where they said all the right things about marrying whom you want but when someone brought up Ukraine, we were admonished to avoid "politics".

(I guess the personal is political only when you're timing your kids, not when folks are having their nuclear power plants shelled. ¡Ay, caramba!

Speaking as a former Moztern, Microsoft is a bad company and should feel bad -- the death of "trustworthy" computing is something no one seems to want to talk about in public for reasons I will never underastand, and their weird obsession with the wall between MSR and the rest of the company was... interesting.

(I still remember making a clippy joke in Redmond and having someone stiffly reply "Sir I worked on that. No sense of humor!)

As for Spain: I've been there, it was too short, and I may have pissed people off in Vigo when we walked by a bank being protested and I separated from a group of professors to try to express my support.

Imagine a herd of stuffy academics loudly talking in English as if no one in Galicia will understand them mocking anything left of neoliberalism, then having a first year grad student break off and excitedly telling a man dressed as a clown "8Hell yeah! Do 'em like Iceland! Put the bracelets on 'em!!8" and having the poor guy thinking he's being shouted at (partly because said academics began to yell at me for "encouraging him".

(The only reason I was even in a PhD was that even in America the job market was still reeling from the 2009 crash, and by 2012 towns like Vigo were still fairly devoid of tourists, though I got the impression this was partly because Porto was some kind of drug free fire zone -- some "anarchists" yanked out a Hunter S Thompson level suitcase on the balcony the night before my talk -- I ended up declining LSD and possibly getting roofied... I always suffered from early waking after a night out, but nearly slept through my lecture. Years later I got clued in the rohypnoly tastes salty and someone in attendance had a beef with me.)

Luckily a thumbs up is pretty universal?

Anyways, I'll quit wall of texting as I take a break from my MLK weekend adventure of breaking into my own iPhone backups and leave it at this:

the line between anarcho-capitalism and fasciscm is fairly thin if you're lacking capital IMHO.

Thanks for your reply! :-)

[*] I exploited a loophole to take a single course, then got myself hired as staff, and openly joked "Why pay all that tuition when one piece of paper and an A gets me the same network", which apparently rubbed some people the wrong way. Tough for them - hail to Pitt! :D