[dsm9000]

I’ve used emacs to open and edit binaries back in the old days - basically one long line. We often needed to install proprietary software in non standard locations so changing the embedded strings within binaries worked great and better than using vi (pre vim era). Always best if the new path had a length less than that of the existing one.

In any event I guess the whining about editors will never stop but meanwhile they seem to be GoodEnough(tm) for me and most things.

Emacs used to be mocked for being bigger than the OS but now I think most editors are much larger. I used to work at a University lab helpdesk of sorts where first time users of UNIX systems would ask us for help getting started entering their first CSCI programs on a Sun or other UNIX-like os and my unscientific but high n observation is that vi, emacs, ed or cat all worked and occasionally people would find a way to get confused equally on any method when starting out. Level of education didn’t seem to make a difference.

Editor ergonomics seem to be very personal, like furniture so I’m glad we have so many options.

On another side note I am glad that most text input fields across many operating systems and applications usually do the right thing with Emacs cursor control sequences e.g. CTRL-a, CTRL-n, CTRL-p, CTRL-e. So hopefully that legacy lives on

[narag]

Editor ergonomics seem to be very personal, like furniture so I’m glad we have so many options.

A long time ago I read some piece by Groucho, about how it's impossible to find a beef (or ham, or turkey, not sure which it was) sandwich any more. He goes to some sandwich shop and ask for a beef sandwich and they offer him a beef + hard boiled eggs + lettuce sandwich with mayo, cherry tomatos and oregano, or a beef + cheese + spinachs + nutmeg sandwich or whatever. But he can't just buy a simple roastbeef sandwich, maybe with a pinch of mustard.

I used Notepad in Windows for simple text, that used to work OK. Then I changed to some free editor created by a guy as a programming exercise with some interesting extras. Now both have the same problem: if I need to open big text files for some reason, it takes forever.

Edit: big as in ~ 1 MB, sometimes smaller.

[TeMPOraL]

> A long time ago I read some piece by Groucho, about how it's impossible to find a beef (or ham, or turkey, not sure which it was) sandwich any more. (...) But he can't just buy a simple roastbeef sandwich, maybe with a pinch of mustard.

I need to find that piece, because it resonates. For me, it's hot dogs. I can't find plain hotdogs anywhere anymore. All I want is a bun, a sausage, and some ketchup and mustard on top. But no, everyone has to add at least cucumbers and fried onions, and if you're not careful, you'll end up with bread full of a large assortment of veggies, with barely a sausage in sight.

I imagine the reason for this is economics: this green stuff is probably dirt cheap relative to the sausage, but lets the vendor triple the price of a hot dog without making you feel they're price gouging you.

For the past decade in my area, IKEA was the last bastion of pure, unadulterated hot dogs. But even they recently took that off the menu - the basic hot dog now comes loaded with useless greenery.