[dgb23]

I agree, I write JS professionally.

But there is a _qualitative_ difference between interactive development between JS and a Lisp like Clojure. And "pretty much" is also qualitatively less expressive than "everything is an expression".

I write expression based, simple, mostly functional JS and I use tools to make that as interactive as is practical. But there's still a lot of friction and differences between that and development with a Lisp (in my case Clojure).