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by ivan_gammel
1259 days ago
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(1) Yes
(2) Yes, but that was only for university graduates, it was time-bound and came with additional job security guarantees and often with guaranteed accommodation. Not sure if it’s really different from some modern contracts.
(3) I suggest to stop referencing Stalin era as something that is characteristic for the entire history of SU. It was not the longest period and it was indeed special. In other periods being forced to do a particular job was a rare thing.
(4) There were restrictions on the process of changing the job, but compare that to modern world: large notice periods on contracts, non-compete agreements, visas - is it the world of forced labor or sometimes employers have stronger negotiation power than you? |
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Time-bound forced work is still forced work.
> and came with additional job security guarantees and often with guaranteed accommodation
Serfdom and slavery also comes with job security and accommodation. It's still forced labor though.
> Not sure if it’s really different from some modern contracts.
You're free to not sign up a modern contract.
> (3) I suggest to stop referencing Stalin era as something that is characteristic for the entire history of SU. It was not the longest period and it was indeed special. In other periods being forced to do a particular job was a rare thing.
Specific example was about post-Stalin era. Many political prisoners and their kids were released from gulags after Stalin's death. Coming back home, even to full-of-anti-soviet-resistance Lithuania, was not easy. A distant relative had to live in Kazakhstan for decades since he couldn't get a registration closer to home. We're talking „lax“ Chruschiov era.
> (4) There were restrictions on the process of changing the job
And there was a lot of unwritten rules were special persons would just fall in a never ending quagmire.
> but compare that to modern world: large notice periods on contracts, non-compete agreements
Non-compete is illegal in many jurisdictions. Few weeks notice seems fair to both sides TBH. Dropping a job on the spot is not nice.
> visas
That doesn't apply to 99.9% of people. If you work in foreign country and don't have permanent residence there, it's up to you. But when you need visa equivalent to move to a city from a village in your native whereabouts...