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by dmitriid 1249 days ago
> everyone else supports them

That's what I said: At best they can consume/embed them and perhaps compile to them.

> regardless if they are their foundation or not.

And the fact that they are not forming the foundation of these frameworks should be examined and fixed, not ignnored. However, wc proponents ignore this entirely.
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pjmlp 1249 days ago
Maybe because those frameworks don't want to be rewritten from scratch?

It is like asking why so many graphics engines get written, instead of using raw OpenGL/Vulkan calls and extension spaghetti all over the place.

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dmitriid 1249 days ago
> Maybe because those frameworks don't want to be rewritten from scratch?

The absolute vast majority of new frameworks don't use web components as the foundation.

Perhaps instead of burying their heads in the sand people pushing web components would should finally start asking why?

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pjmlp 1249 days ago
Usually I use https://angular.io/guide/elements, https://vuejs.org/guide/extras/web-components.html#using-cus... or https://lit.dev/

I only need to ask why, when I have to deal with React based stuff.

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dmitriid 1249 days ago
AngularJS doesn't use web components as their foundation.

VueJS doesn't use web components as their foundation.

So you're not asking why. You're ignoring the question and burying your head in the sand.

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pjmlp 1249 days ago
Yeah, because yelling against Web Components in every forum thread is so much more productive.

We use them with the frameworks that have first class support, regardless if they are at their foundation or not.

Who is actually being ignored here?

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dmitriid 1249 days ago
> Yeah, because yelling against Web Components in every forum thread is so much more productive.

I'm not yelling. I'm pointing out facts.

> regardless if they are at their foundation or not.

So why are they not used as a foundation? Why are they used at best as a second class citizen? Why is it these frameworks don't produce web components by default?

> Who is actually being ignored here?

Framework authors, who have been pointing out the very many deficiencies and shortcomings for years. Most developers who need things like scoped CSS and open-ui.org more than fifteen hundred new standards, each requiring JS to work, barely.

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