[snapcaster]

As someone who LOVES the books (the frank herbert ones at least). I thought the movie was great. They captured the tone very well, casting was good. Even the dialogue created just for the movie that Duke Leto and Paul have about Desert power was very Dune. It also helped make clear that the Atriedes aren't "good guys" right off the bat.

My only real complaint was that the time between them landing and the Harkonnen's invading was too short and didn't cover all the intrigue/politics occuring on Arrakis before the invasion.

In the movie it came off as: Okay Leto you get Arrakis now LOL JK WE'RE INVADING IMMEDIATELY. But that being said, I understand there are length constraints and I think the movie was already about 2.5 hours so I can forgive them

[grogenaut]

I read the books back in the 90s, but I don't remember it being obvious the atradies were bad. The seemed pretty egalitarian other than the main family. But I may have missed it. The harkonens are just horrific though. Am I remembering wrong from someone who has read more recently.

I'm fine with how they did it in the movie I just never really jive with shows where everyone sucks.

[int_19h]

The Atreides are still agents of a foreign empire occupying and exploiting Arrakis. They impose the Imperial hierarchy and law on the unwilling populace, by force, if necessary, and they extract the resources. They do try to treat their subjects well within the boundaries permitted by the system, unlike Harkonnens; it's just that the system itself is inherently oppressive, so the best they can do is being "good feudals". Paul even spells it out at one point:

“You sense that Arrakis could be a paradise,” Kynes said. “Yet, as you see, the Imperium sends here only its trained hatchetmen, its seekers after the spice!”

Paul held up his thumb with its ducal signet. “Do you see this ring?”

“Yes.”

“Do you know its significance?”

Jessica turned sharply to stare at her son.

“Your father lies dead in the ruins of Arrakeen,” Kynes said. “You are technically the Duke.”

“I’m a soldier of the Imperium,” Paul said, “technically a hatchetman.”

Kynes’ face darkened. “Even with the Emperor’s Sardaukar standing over your father’s body?”

“The Sardaukar are one thing, the legal source of my authority is another,” Paul said.