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by hilbertseries 1251 days ago
I don’t really know to what extent AI is going to take over. But crypto is a Terri comparison, it didn’t really solve any problems. There’s nothing you can do with a blockchain that’s you couldn’t already do before.

The potential with Chatgpt if it can be refined is wild.

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> The potential with Chatgpt if it can be refined is wild.

potential for good or bad ? Last time they tried to use AI for police/justice it ended up exacerbating existing biases.

> There’s nothing you can do with a blockchain that’s you couldn’t already do before.

What can you do with an AI you can't with humans in a court of law ? When a human is wrong you get a single judicial error, when the only software used is wrong (bug, bias, &c.) you'll get thousands every day.

What happens if an update makes the same case get a better defence and as an outcome a lesser sentence ? do you retrial all the other similar cases ?

The only potential I see is saving money and this is certainly not on the top of the list of things I would like the justice system to focus on

> potential for good or bad ? Last time they tried to use AI for police/justice it ended up exacerbating existing biases

Both. OpenAI are trying to be politically neutral, but it's not hard to break the rails, and someone else can and will replicate the work without those protections anyway.

> What can you do with an AI you can't with humans in a court of law ?

Me personally? Afford more than a fairly small case.

> What happens if an update makes the same case get a better defence and as an outcome a lesser sentence ? do you retrial all the other similar cases ?

That's actually a great idea. The estimated cost of each query is cents, so we might very well be able to retry everyone on each update, for less than the cost of keeping them imprisoned.

> That's actually a great idea. The estimated cost of each query is cents, so we might very well be able to retry everyone on each update, for less than the cost of keeping them imprisoned.

You're thinking like a developer and you're absolutely blind when it comes to the lives and families potentially destroyed by something like that. And that's exactly why technocrats should rarely be in charge

"ah really sorry dude, we released you last year but now you're on death row, wait for the next update, if it comes before you're fried on the chair you might get a lesser sentence. The last dude forgot to uncomment a branch in a switch/case and you were flagged incorrectly. Sorry for the inconvenience xoxo"

> Me personally? Afford more than a fairly small case.

That's a regulation issues, not an AI issue.

> "ah really sorry dude, we released you last year but now you're on death row, wait for the next update, if it comes before you're fried on the chair you might get a lesser sentence. The last dude forgot to uncomment a branch in a switch/case and you were flagged incorrectly. Sorry for the inconvenience xoxo"

That's the exact opposite of the scenario you previously described, as you were previously saying people could get better defences not getting better prosecutions.

I'm not legally trained so this might just be Hollywood logic, but doesn't re-prosecuting someone require a court case with new evidence?

Anyway…

> That's a regulation issues, not an AI issue.

No, it's a "you're hiring at contractor rates" problem.

Just as Stable Diffusion is giving a hard time to professional artists who earn at contractor rates by producing "it might not be amazing but it's certainly not bad" art for a dozen images per cent of electricity, ChatGPT is giving "it might BS me 5-20% of the time depending on the subject, but it's still better than I know" responses on basically everything.

It can't do every job at an expert level yet, but it's better than almost everyone's baseline for the skills they are non-expert at. (No idea how long it will take to get to superhuman even just for law, and I was over-optimistic about self-driving car AI, but we shall see).

did not crime prediction system let them arrest more African American?
> The potential with Chatgpt if it can be refined is wild.

But this is exactly my point. I likely saw in 2018 word for word "The potential with blockchain technology if it can be refined is wild." Then everyone slowly realized - as you mentioned - "there's nothing you can do with a blockchain that you couldn't already to before". Same with chatGPT, it's just regurgitating what we collective know as a species. I just don't see how, if ever, any sort of AI system (even granted geometric improvement blah blah blah) is going to take over my daily type of work.

- I can send someone 1 million USDC for 0.000001 US cent with confirmation in <1 second. - I can send any twitter user address money by tweeting (eg. Send 100 USDC to @randomuser)

Couple examples that have come up recently for me personally. I can agree that there is something comparable (i.e. international wire) but the cost and speed is in a different ballpark and international wires are not available to some parts of the world.

> I can send someone 1 million USDC for 0.000001 US cent with confirmation in <1 second

This is clearly a very big problem for the majority of the world population!

It's like saying tesla solved the problem of going from 0 to 60 in 3 second in a 2t+ car, it's neato but virtually nobody had that problem, if you're not into illegal activities you will most likely never need or want to transfer 1m usd outside of a safe environment anyways

Which chain and service is that?
Doesn't matter, cryptocurrency won apparently.