[oxfordmale]

This quote summarises everything that is wrong with Agile.

>> rarely well implemented.

The Agile Manifesto was published in 2001, over two decades ago. After all this time, and the involvement of a lot of clever people, even Agile advocates are stating it is rarely well implemented. Doesn't that suggest that Agile, as a management technique, has failed?

True Agile is appears to be as elusive as the holy grail.

[jesuscript]

Well, who is in the position to change an Agile process in any company? If we have 20 years of using this system, we should have enough feedback from developers and the business to refine what Agile is. I can tell you very few developers have input on the overall process in most places.

It's not evolving into a better system because it's under the new bureaucratic regime of project managers. They are an institution now within the tech industry and are a self preserving entity. It's idiosyncratic for them to change this bureaucracy.

If a developer were to say, "here is what I think about the process that governs me", the governors will laugh you out of the room with a delicate smile and sweet fuck you along the lines of "woah, that's great feedback!".

[baby]

Isn’t agile just like 5 sentences that are pretty vague? If so what does it mean that it’s badly implemented? That sounds like the “they are not interpreting the bible correctly” type of argument.

[agumonkey]

I think it was Ward Cunningham who discussed that on a video. People in his group would interpret with nuances and good sense. But the thing became a fad and enterprise world turned it into an accounting exercise.