[maerF0x0]

Those are two very cherry picked examples. And I agree I'd probably have a totally different view of SF if I had lived there instead. But you're also talking like 30+ minutes commute to an office near Market street/Civic Center/SOMa

[Apocryphon]

Fair, but people throughout the Bay Area- those living in South Bay for instance- deal with commutes of such lengths every day, if not longer. Plenty of people live in Oakland and the East Bay and commute to San Francisco. Richmond and Sunset seem to be a destination for the savvy who want S.F. amenities and manageable commutes at cheaper rents without living outside of the city. Not to even mention those who live in Portola, Excelsior, or even Daly City.

Also, Portrero Hill and Dogpatch are just east of the Mission. Dogpatch is (was) on the up and up before the pandemic.

[maerF0x0]

For those taking ^^ advice, NB: but also to deal with not being protected from the crazy weather patterns by Twin Peaks. The weather west of twin peaks is quite a bit more chaotic (stronger wins, more fog) than elsewhere at least as I recall living in it.

[MAGZine]

like, half of the city is a 'cherry picked example'?

what about the marina. or noe valley? or corona heights?

i think tech people live/visit in soma/mission/market and then write off the entire city based on that--like the only place to live in 7th and minna and everything else isn't close enough to.... something....

[maerF0x0]

I guess I basically think of stuff west of van ness to be like the "suburbs" of San Francisco. It's not nearly the same density as the core. Sure it's much more dense than like the suburbs of Austin, but also far far less going on besides little pockets like Divis or Cow Hollow .