[germinalphrase]

Perhaps we should all be required to live for some period of time in the cold, hungry, dark pre-modern world such that we can return to modernity and be appropriately enthused.

[pessimizer]

Maybe we should examine why we think that the past was darker and colder than the present.

[bjelkeman-again]

For me it has been enough visiting subsistence farmers. I really don’t want to live like that, and have spent a decade trying to help at some useful scale.

[_a_a_a_]

I consider that a damn good suggestion